So after long consideration, I am no longer the Rogue of Void. I have no abandoned that title for something better and much more accurate.
Seer of Void.
Because I am able to see things that no one else can see (yet) and also somehow have my vision obscured to the point where I can’t see shit.
Which explains how I was able to make the Kermet Gif WAY before knowing what Lord English even looks like, and still have no idea what the actual dimension order was.
Anyway, let’s continue our vacay on this meteor then.
Right, so, I have now complete understanding (hopefully) over the progression of the Universes that have popped up. Alpha-Jegus->Karkat->John->Jane. I got that.
I also got that the Reset just changed the time/location the babies were originally going to. Pre-Reset, the babies would have gone into the past and grown up to the gang we all know and love. Post-Reset, they would have gone to a different dimension in different locations and turn into the Alpha-Verse.
So that means John (our boy john) was the one to create ALL the babies, and ALL 8 sets of both Alpha and Beta-verse.
And since each baby didn’t launch yet without a gift/present, let’s see where each of those things ended up.
JANE
She got the hat. In Beta-Verse, she didn’t really much wear the hat (seeing how most of the time she is a ghost).
But in Alpha-Verse, Jane uses the hat as a way of expressing her interest in Detectives. Mean that hat went through an explosive landing and time, but still has ink splots on from when Beta-Dad went through Skaia.
JAKE
He got the Guns.
in Beta-Verse, he grew up to be Harley, named after his dog. He had duel-Pistols, which he used to accidentally kill the Colonel. Baby Jade was messing with them, prompting Tavros to move the guns away from her, and killing Harley instead.
In Alpha-Verse, Jake just has the guns and his weapon of choice are the guns.
DAVE
Dave got Maplehoof. He stole Rose’s birthday present.
In Beta-Verse, his baby ass killed her gift (the bastard) and Bro just made it into a leather bib for some fucking reason.
Alpha-Verse, yeah we haven’t really seen the original Maplehoof, just this tiny version of it. So my theory is that Maplehoof died again in Alpha-Verse, and Dave grew up, wanted to replicate that, and just used his vast wealth to create a tiny-ass version of Maplehoof, like what happened in Spy Kids 2.
ROXY
So this one is a bit easy. Mutant Mew-Mew was created by Rose, taken in game by Rose, and John ended up with her. Given to baby Roxy.
In Beta, this was probably the thing that inspired he to be a scientist, to find the secrets of the 4 eyed cat and study with her super secret science lab underground. And honestly? It is probably the same cat, so I guess it lives eternal, unless Beta-Roxy makes a new cat every so often.
In Alpha…..
I think we know her love of cats…and science
JOHN
John got a book, specifically, John got the book that his ghost-grandma signed.
So original history was John had a non-signed version of the book, took it with him, Ghost-Grandma wrote a message, dropped it down for John to find the book in the Ecto-room, and for baby John to crawl on it.
From there it killed grandma, but Beta-Dad found said book and kept it in his safe.
Which John opened and has currently.
In Alpha-Verse, John crashed with the book. Was raised as a comedian pro, kept this book as an heirloom, which was passed down from generation to generation along with his body, until it was in Jane’s house all her life.
DIRK
God, GOD! Fuck this puppet, you are Fucking Eternal and I hate you.
So, if I get this fucking right…….Gamzee gave Dave nightmares and he got haunted by Cal. Dream-Cal was picked up by Cop-Guy, and floated his way to the Ecto-Room to be with Dirk.
In Beta-Verse, Cal went back in time to Dirk, where Dirk took, loved, cherish, used to raise/beat up Dave, used to fight Jack on Prospit, where Jack stole Cal, took with him when ransacking the Trolls, sent back in time to Aradia, re-suited in a green suit, for the Troll’s Black Queen to ecto-create a brand-new fucking Scratch (hate that guy still), and Gamzee currently has it.
Alpha-Verse, Dirk was raised with Cal. I have no idea why Alpha-Dave didn’t burn it when Dirk came crashing in, but whatever. Dirk loves the bastard, and I do not.
See, I got a theory. You know how poltergeist could fuck with people by like doing demonic whispering and leading them to the dark side in movies? Yeah, I 100% agree with Anti-Jegus that Cal is Bad Juju. Gamzee made it out of anger/rage, so it became evil. A fucking Swag-Bag of evil.
I 100% believe that Cal did like, secret evil dark whisperings of “you should go kill” “killing is fun, totally, all the cool kids do it.” Not to say Gamzee didn’t also just went nuts from withdrawl and just wanted to kill, but he had Cal encouraging it because Cal is t r a s h.
So, Cal is now loose in Alpha-Verse, and I am just Waiting for the next victim of Cal’s Bad Juju Dark Spirit Shit.
(SIDEBAR: please fund me on Patreon so I can get enough money to make my own Cal Effigy and just burn the bastard)
Finally, RABBIT
Yeah, THESE GUYS. The Rabbit has a Long Fucking History, doesn’t it?
Dave bought Con Air Rabbit. Gave it to John for his birthday.
John, in a moment of Con Air Purity, Gave that Rabbit to Rose.
Rose grew up with the rabbit, but it was torn. So with John’s gift of Knitting-Supplies, she reknitted it to send to John on the same Birthday.
(So John had 2 rabbits at the same time)
During the Same “Con Air Purity” Moment, John gave that Rabbit to Jade.
Jade grew up with that rabbit, and for months (somehow) kept sending it Back and Forth with Jake (again….somehow!) to improve it.
Resulting in Liv, John’s current Rabbit, who helped him deliver the Bomb to both Rose and Dave to kill (but actually create) The Green Sun.
The long Complex life of Beta-Rabbit.
And it changes in Apha-Verse.
So, Dave gives rabbit to John, who gives it to Baby Rose. In Alpha, rabbit just stays as a rabbit. Given to Roxy, who dresses it as a Wizard and given to Jane for her birthday.
With this rabbit, Dave->John->Beta Baby Rose-> John -> Baby Jade. Only this time, baby Jane goes to Alpha-Land, passed down to Jake, who dressed it up and gave to Jane for the same birthday.
Meaning that Lil Seb
Is just another Con Air Rabbit turned to Cyborg, only with more of a shortcut, than what happened with Liv.
Absolutely Not. Kanaya has a gothic sophistication and maturity, along with her brooding goth aesthetic, that would make Anyone want to hug her.
While my obvious choice to hug is Karkat, that boy would probably hiss and thrash in my arms until I let him go. I can see Kanaya first be tense/surprised by physical contact if you hug her, but then she gives some pretty decent hugs when she gets comfortable.
You think Hussie actually thought this through, like with all of the science and everything, or did that just happen to work things out in his favor? Because he is the type of man who I can see will both take everything to account, or is just lazy and just let the fans figure out the science behind it themselves.
I fucking hope that his first reaction is just Dave reflexively drop-kicking Cal into a volcano. Or try to stab it. Or, you know, just fight Dirk over trying to kill Cal. That thing needs to go.
Interesting dynamic, seeing how the knight boys are more/less arguing with each other for her attention, rather than fighting her. Or at least Karkat is, I doubt that Dave would care.
And also, in case anyone is wondering, Terezi here stole their shit and they want it back. That is why Dave and Karkat are fighting.
I was wrong and confused MAJORLY about the order of the universes.
The Alpha-Verse did not come before the Beta-Verse, John&Co came before Jane&Co.
I understand. I get it now. I got the true order: Alpha-Trolls -> Karkat -> John -> Jane.
There is no Beta 2.0. Beta 2.0 was always the Alpha-Verse all along.
Please understand that when Alpha-Jegus first brought this up, I was confused, had no idea what it meant, and thought that the B2 world she said was just the new reset world, not that the alpha-kids actually lived there.
This was in session 195, over a month ago, where I said “Damn it, this is where you lost me.” So since I was lost and confused, I decided to ignore it until later.
And Later is Today.
I thought that the Beta-kids were going backwards in time to meet the Alpha-kids, not forwards (I guess Queen-Feferi went forwards too, but I digress)
I get it now, so no need to worry about correcting me in time-frame, it’s all good in the hood.
Damn…now I sort of forgot what else happened besides ^that.
So they already saw Roxy and I guess Dave is Bi. Well, I am going to headcanon him as Bi since he said he loves John way way before, and Rose gave him grief over him thinking their other mother was hot.
So Jane didn’t need to prototype anything since this is a void session, so that didn’t matter. Still don’t know if her disappearing is due to the void session, or just the arm-dildo hole. Either works I guess.
Queen Feferi is trying to rule both Derse/Prospit, and the Void Earth, so fucking great.
Even Rose is confused over how the fuck Roxy and Dirk was centuries into the future.
Alpha-Jegus is literally talking to people 3 universes ahead of her. meaning that, if I am now correct in timelines: Rose writes her book, she wrote about her/their adventure in Alpha-Verse, shipped that book ALL the way back 3 dimensions to Troll-Alpha, where Alpha-Jegus read it and decided to try and help the Alpha-kids.
God time travel is so fucking confusing in this comic.
